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Tuesday, May 21, 2013

Divided We Fall

I read an interesting article the other day about Hebrew Union College possibly not admitting rabbinical students who are in interfaith marriages. The article was by a Reform rabbi in a same-sex marriage. The debate in the comments was fascinating, and while the author had originally made a very convincing case, the resulting conversation showed me both sides of it and now I don't know WHAT I feel!

But what struck me most in the comments was the openly hostile attitude from many Orthodox Jews toward Reforms. There were soooo many commenters who just dismissed the author entirely and wouldn't even engage in a conversation around this because she is Reform and because HUC isn't "valid" anyway. The remarks weren't just dismissive or condescending - they were angry and disgusted, with the interfaith marriage bit being just a detail on the side. There were people saying that it doesn't matter what this author does since she isn't really a rabbi. Others said it was silly that the HUC would worry about anything since there are no standards as it is for ordaining rabbis. Others said since this rabbi is part of a movement that completely dismisses and undermines the Torah anyway, it isn't surprising that she would take this stance.

The attitudes were just devastating to me. Is it a surprise to me that many Orthodox Jews do not see liberal Judaism as valid? Not at all. Reform rabbis are duty-bound to inform candidates for conversion that their conversion will most likely not be seen as valid in the Orthodox sect, and my rabbi let me know this from the get-go. It was mildly irritating in an eye-rolling way, but not something that affected my decision. I see it in my Orthodox colleague's lack of recognition of me as a Jew - no congratulations upon my conversion, no "Chag Sameach" at holidays we both share in, nothing. I feel it, and I have to let it roll off me the same as someone who is anti-gay chatting merrily with me until something related to home life comes up, when they suddenly nod and smile and look away as they try to find a way to wriggle out of what seems to me like normal conversation.

Now that I know more about the other denominations, I think I could just as happily have converted to Reconstructionist or Conservative Judaism (equally dismissed by Orthodox), but never, ever Orthodox. If my only option in Judaism was a strict, literal interpretation of the Torah and accepting institutionalized sexism, I couldn't have gotten on board. There is a reason so many Jews broke off from this. But to think that so many Jews, our own brothers and sisters (though they may not see US that way), dismiss us as Jews is hurtful. I wanted to yell back at some of the commenters as they talked about not taking the Torah seriously - I dare them to sit in ONE service or Torah study with my rabbi and not feel the absolutely infectious love and respect she has for Torah.

I think what frustrates me is that I don't have a negative view of Orthodox Jews. I respect them for their discipline in following Torah the way they feel is right. I am grateful to them for being fruitful and multiplying, since Reforms aren't quite as good at that and tend to have smaller families. I can allow them room to be a little skeptical or disagree with how liberal Jews of all denominations interpret Jewish law. But why the hatred? What good does it serve any of us to dismiss, look down upon, and express anger and disgust toward one another? And for what, when we are all just trying to follow our hearts and our God and live good, holy lives? I can't imagine using up any of my energy on directing hatred toward my kinsfolk. There is so much to be grateful for, and so much to do in the world, and that's where my focus is. If another Jew isn't hurting anyone, I'm really not worried about what she's doing or how she's practicing. I guess it's just hard for me to understand, and it is certainly disappointing.

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  1. Can I try to approach it from the other side? I'm not supporting hatred or people being rude at all, but I think I might have a glimpse into the hurt. So there is a church called the American Catholic Church who basically just calls themselves the Catholic Church (meaning you'd have to dig to find out they aren't Roman Catholic, and most non-RC people think they ARE RC). They have many very opposing beliefs from the RCC, and I think a lot of us RRCers think "Ok, they don't agree with us so... why don't they call themselves something else?" It's hurtful that they want to keep the Catholic name but not the beliefs, and then mislead other people into thinking that's what the RCC teaches.

    I think maybe the Orthodox Jews might feel that way, but the difference is Reform Jews aren't trying to SAY they're Orthodox, so it seems like there shouldn't be the drama/hurt surrounding it. I've never met an Orthodox Jew in my life, so of course I can't pretend to know what they (the ones hurting and upset about it) feel, but I'm just guessing that they might wish Reform and Conservative Jews didn't even have "Jew" in the name . Again, not defending the behavior. Unfortunately hurt people often get really mean and hateful. Do you think I'm even close to hitting the nail on the head? I'm curious about your thoughts!

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    1. That comparison isn't comparable since like you say, we aren't trying to come off as Orthodox. A more appropriate comparison would be Catholic vs Protestant. Would you be disgusted that a Baptist dares call themselves a Christian despite not practicing exactly how you do as a Catholic? If you do, then we will never see eye to eye on this. There is a reason different movements have formed, and no Reform is at all trying to pretend to be Orthodox. And I will never think hatred and disgust are appropriate ways to interact with others who are trying to live a good life.

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    2. I know it's not comparable, but I was just trying to explain what I think they might feel and where that hurt might be coming from. No, I'm not offended at anyone who calls themselves a Christian who believes in the basic tenets of Christianity (which not all people who say they are Christian do). I did say twice that I don't agree with hatred/rudeness and was only trying to delve into the hurting aspect. I also did point out that I was saying Reform was trying to claim they are Orthodox. I probably shouldn't have commented... just trying to have dialogue about it and explore it further, but I think you took what I said in a very different way than what I meant.

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    3. Wanted to add sorry if I hurt your feelings :(. It really wasn't my intent. I'm not always the best at putting my thoughts into words.

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    4. Ahhhh WASN'T saying Reform was trying to claim they are Orthodox!!! Now I can quit spamming your blog.

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  2. I guess I didn't come off the way I intended because I didn't expect you to feel defensive from my comment. I was just trying to put it in clearer perspective. Also...you keep mentioning hurt, but these people's comments weren't about hurt. They were openly hostile, demeaning, and even contemptuous. Very different.

    The point is...a reader can choose whether or not to engage in a discussion about the ordination of rabbis in interfaith marriages, but I think it's highly inappropriate and even downright cruel to deflect the conversation entirely by dismissing and ridiculing the rabbi who wrote it just for who they are. If people think treating someone like that makes them a "better" Jew, I feel really sad for them.

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  3. I don't want to throw the baby out with the bathwater. I am loved by my temple community and my rabbi, and that's what really matters to me. There are negative people everywhere, but I can't let them ruin my focus and my joy :)

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